Comments on: Story: The Lion, the Wolf, and the Fox – by Mevlana Jelaluddin Rumi http://www.poetry-chaikhana.com/blog/2009/03/22/story-the-lion-the-wolf-and-the-fox-by-mevlana-jelaluddin-rumi/ Sacred Poetry from Around the World Sat, 25 May 2013 13:44:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: Isabel TipplE http://www.poetry-chaikhana.com/blog/2009/03/22/story-the-lion-the-wolf-and-the-fox-by-mevlana-jelaluddin-rumi/#comment-4278 Isabel TipplE Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:40:45 +0000 http://www.poetry-chaikhana.com/blog/2009/03/22/story-the-lion-the-wolf-and-the-fox-by-mevlana-jelaluddin-rumi/#comment-4278 Dear Ivan This poetry Chaikhana website truly is a refreshing drink from a well spring - thankyou for keeping and sharing such a good order. It lifts the spirit and starts the soul apon reflection,questions and answers - leading towards a true meaning and purpose of Existence. The beauty of expression through the ages is heartening and something so very much worth sharing... God's Blessings...... Isabel Dear Ivan

This poetry Chaikhana website truly is a refreshing drink from a well spring – thankyou for keeping and sharing such a good order. It lifts the spirit and starts the soul apon reflection,questions and answers – leading towards a true meaning and purpose of Existence. The beauty of expression through the ages is heartening and something so very much worth sharing…

God’s Blessings……

Isabel

]]> By: Akinniyi Akeem http://www.poetry-chaikhana.com/blog/2009/03/22/story-the-lion-the-wolf-and-the-fox-by-mevlana-jelaluddin-rumi/#comment-4248 Akinniyi Akeem Tue, 24 Mar 2009 08:30:08 +0000 http://www.poetry-chaikhana.com/blog/2009/03/22/story-the-lion-the-wolf-and-the-fox-by-mevlana-jelaluddin-rumi/#comment-4248 Hi Ivan, Thank you for adding up to my connotative knowledge. The story if looked at from a surface is a good one and going a step further into its symbolism throws a deeper light into the world we live. I will always be a fan of poetry chikana. Hi Ivan,
Thank you for adding up to my connotative knowledge. The story if looked at from a surface is a good one and going a step further into its symbolism throws a deeper light into the world we live. I will always be a fan of poetry chikana.

]]> By: mazhur http://www.poetry-chaikhana.com/blog/2009/03/22/story-the-lion-the-wolf-and-the-fox-by-mevlana-jelaluddin-rumi/#comment-4234 mazhur Mon, 23 Mar 2009 21:55:17 +0000 http://www.poetry-chaikhana.com/blog/2009/03/22/story-the-lion-the-wolf-and-the-fox-by-mevlana-jelaluddin-rumi/#comment-4234 Ivan , one of my lady friends has commented as follows. What do you say?? '''perhaps it is a representation of one mans god, but not The God of all creation. It appears to be more of a rich man's greed to own everything such as an Arab Sheik and to slay anyone he chooses so as not to allow the other free will even though he demanded the other make his free will choices. Only when the other gives up his free will does the "so called god lion" accept him as one of his own kind. That is to walk in another's shoes and not to walk in one's own shoes. The lion...is lying. He is not a god, he is not even The God. He is a control freak and his puppet strings no longer control the puppet. Can't you see it.... the Sufi was wrong in that case on some principles.''''' Ivan , one of my lady friends has commented as follows. What do you say??

”’perhaps it is a representation of one mans god, but not The God of all creation.
It appears to be more of a rich man’s greed to own everything such as an Arab Sheik and to slay anyone he chooses so as not to allow the other free will even though he demanded the other make his free will choices. Only when the other gives up his free will does the “so called god lion” accept him as one of his own kind. That is to walk in another’s shoes and not to walk in one’s own shoes. The lion…is lying. He is not a god, he is not even The God. He is a control freak and his puppet strings no longer control the puppet.
Can’t you see it…. the Sufi was wrong in that case on some principles.””’

]]> By: mazhur http://www.poetry-chaikhana.com/blog/2009/03/22/story-the-lion-the-wolf-and-the-fox-by-mevlana-jelaluddin-rumi/#comment-4233 mazhur Mon, 23 Mar 2009 21:51:53 +0000 http://www.poetry-chaikhana.com/blog/2009/03/22/story-the-lion-the-wolf-and-the-fox-by-mevlana-jelaluddin-rumi/#comment-4233 a nice beginning don't you think this story has also been written by Aesop? In what I have read before, there is bear instead of wolf!! a nice beginning

don’t you think this story has also been written by Aesop?

In what I have read before, there is bear instead of wolf!!

]]> By: Ivan M. Granger http://www.poetry-chaikhana.com/blog/2009/03/22/story-the-lion-the-wolf-and-the-fox-by-mevlana-jelaluddin-rumi/#comment-4229 Ivan M. Granger Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:30:31 +0000 http://www.poetry-chaikhana.com/blog/2009/03/22/story-the-lion-the-wolf-and-the-fox-by-mevlana-jelaluddin-rumi/#comment-4229 You are absolutely correct, sk. Thanks for pointing out that error. I've already fixed it. -Ivan You are absolutely correct, sk. Thanks for pointing out that error. I’ve already fixed it.
-Ivan

]]> By: sk http://www.poetry-chaikhana.com/blog/2009/03/22/story-the-lion-the-wolf-and-the-fox-by-mevlana-jelaluddin-rumi/#comment-4228 sk Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:27:07 +0000 http://www.poetry-chaikhana.com/blog/2009/03/22/story-the-lion-the-wolf-and-the-fox-by-mevlana-jelaluddin-rumi/#comment-4228 An excellent story with a revealing meaning on the powers of Almighty! There is a single typo, I believe in the narration. The last paragraph of the wisdom of this story wrongfully mentions the Hare, instead of the fox, I am afraid. //The lion is satisfied, and then surprises the hare [FOX????]by handing the undivided bountry over to the fox. Forgive me if I am wrong! An excellent story with a revealing meaning on the powers of Almighty!
There is a single typo, I believe in the narration.
The last paragraph of the wisdom of this story wrongfully mentions the Hare, instead of the fox, I am afraid.

//The lion is satisfied, and then surprises the hare [FOX????]by handing the undivided bountry over to the fox.
Forgive me if I am wrong!

]]> By: Marina Kim http://www.poetry-chaikhana.com/blog/2009/03/22/story-the-lion-the-wolf-and-the-fox-by-mevlana-jelaluddin-rumi/#comment-4219 Marina Kim Mon, 23 Mar 2009 08:59:23 +0000 http://www.poetry-chaikhana.com/blog/2009/03/22/story-the-lion-the-wolf-and-the-fox-by-mevlana-jelaluddin-rumi/#comment-4219 Thank you, Ivan I am glad I read the whole of the post. Without knowing what the animals represent in sufism, the fable would stay just a nice story to me. Your "translation" opened up a lot of new layers... We read the Narnia books with my children this winter. Loved it, all of us! I know, that lion is important to English culture too, but now I can see a link to the sufism in these stories. Will try to find out more about C.S. Lewis... Marina Kim Thank you, Ivan

I am glad I read the whole of the post. Without knowing what the animals represent in sufism, the fable would stay just a nice story to me. Your “translation” opened up a lot of new layers…
We read the Narnia books with my children this winter. Loved it, all of us! I know, that lion is important to English culture too, but now I can see a link to the sufism in these stories. Will try to find out more about C.S. Lewis…

Marina Kim

]]> By: aparna http://www.poetry-chaikhana.com/blog/2009/03/22/story-the-lion-the-wolf-and-the-fox-by-mevlana-jelaluddin-rumi/#comment-4214 aparna Mon, 23 Mar 2009 04:37:23 +0000 http://www.poetry-chaikhana.com/blog/2009/03/22/story-the-lion-the-wolf-and-the-fox-by-mevlana-jelaluddin-rumi/#comment-4214 I am open around the clock and I am a patient waiter... Step through when you have time. I will be there waiting, for I am a patient lover..... I don't know how apt this is but the Jim Atwell's comments always remind me of Mirabai. She says in a song- "ghungat ke patt khol, tohe piya milenge..." telling the bride to lift the veil, for the eternal lover is always waiting beyond the veil... It's beautiful imagery, and it's humbling. Also for the Sufi saint Farid, to reprimand himself at dawn that God is awake while you are still sleeping... I wonder when I will be awake,.. and aware! Thank you Ivan, for giving us glimpses of that awakening every morning. (actually they're not glimpses but the entire panorama of view, but it's just that i am still looking through the veil!!) I am open around the clock and I am a patient waiter…

Step through when you have time.
I will be there waiting,
for I am a patient lover…..

I don’t know how apt this is but the Jim Atwell’s comments always remind me of Mirabai.
She says in a song- “ghungat ke patt khol, tohe piya milenge…”

telling the bride to lift the veil, for the eternal lover is always waiting beyond the veil…

It’s beautiful imagery, and it’s humbling.

Also for the Sufi saint Farid, to reprimand himself at dawn
that God is awake while you are still sleeping…

I wonder when I will be awake,.. and aware!

Thank you Ivan, for giving us glimpses of that awakening every morning.

(actually they’re not glimpses but the entire panorama of view, but it’s just that i am still looking through the veil!!)

]]> By: Jim Atwell http://www.poetry-chaikhana.com/blog/2009/03/22/story-the-lion-the-wolf-and-the-fox-by-mevlana-jelaluddin-rumi/#comment-4199 Jim Atwell Sun, 22 Mar 2009 17:05:20 +0000 http://www.poetry-chaikhana.com/blog/2009/03/22/story-the-lion-the-wolf-and-the-fox-by-mevlana-jelaluddin-rumi/#comment-4199 Where is this table upon which you feast? I am your first meal and your last desert. The banquet of eternity is upon you and The deserts of Love are endless. My table is open What would you like to order? I hear the wine of compassion is excellent. Perhaps you would like an appetizer to start you off. I am open around the clock and I am a patient waiter. Much Love Jim Atwell Where is this table upon which you feast?
I am your first meal and your last desert.
The banquet of eternity is upon you and
The deserts of Love are endless.
My table is open
What would you like to order?
I hear the wine of compassion is excellent.
Perhaps you would like an appetizer to start you off.
I am open around the clock and I am a patient waiter.

Much Love
Jim Atwell

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