http://www.poetry-chaikhana.com/blog/2010/02/02/the-celestial-drink-4-fermentation/ Sacred Poetry from Around the World Wed, 19 Jun 2013 14:42:35 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 http://www.poetry-chaikhana.com/blog/2010/02/02/the-celestial-drink-4-fermentation/#comment-9862 leila Wed, 03 Feb 2010 03:28:28 +0000 http://www.poetry-chaikhana.com/blog/2010/02/02/the-celestial-drink-4-fermentation/#comment-9862 Wow!! Ivan......i think this was my reply for my comment...:D...realy great..thanks...ya it was used by diffrent ways by diffrent people...who all feel same "real"..... I was reading about art theories some weeks ago... so i came to know that all these symbols and secrets first was in old time before philosophy was born by Socrates and plato,time of mythos i think,when still humen didn't become apart to 2 sides, specialy by plato!!..and later all religions.... And the root came from "Dionysus", god of wine and dance in old greek , same Bacchus in roman mythology! and their spritual way was that during a cermony or process with dancing and using wine as symbol,in a mistycal absorbation they became one with god or nature or anything we can call it... It was so interesting for me!..so many people like Pythagoras,also was follower of this way...and through him it reached to others somehow and later to Christianity.... it is so interesting ...coz then i thought in all history looks like it became like a fight between 2 theory, 1:religious view ( thinking 2 sides or 2 poles always,good and bad and so on,looking for God in heaven or sky!..)...and 2: spritual view( think all as ONE,and God here between us in our heart,inside&ourself!) I guess in old time people were aware of it very well!!..they knew the "secret"!!then after philosophy and religions we forget about all,:(...something very easy ...i think all children felt it anyhow, when we was ONE with ourself....so all sptitual teachers try just to make us to go back these long way!...to just became child again...to make us aware of the duality we r living in,in unreal world of mind we r living in.... So that is the key they have gave us,forget about all theoris! about all good and bad..all names....become empty....then what they have talked about love and oneness and secret maybe will come to us by itslef...will reflect in our heart... God!! i just forget the time!!sorry i have talked alot....i don't now if i am right or wrong about my undrestanding... thank you Ivan.... Wow!! Ivan……i think this was my reply for my comment…:D…realy great..thanks…ya it was used by diffrent ways by diffrent people…who all feel same “real”…..
I was reading about art theories some weeks ago…
so i came to know that all these symbols and secrets first was in old time before philosophy was born by Socrates and plato,time of mythos i think,when still humen didn’t become apart to 2 sides, specialy by plato!!..and later all religions….
And the root came from “Dionysus”, god of wine and dance in old greek , same Bacchus in roman mythology! and their spritual way was that during a cermony or process with dancing and using wine as symbol,in a mistycal absorbation they became one with god or nature or anything we can call it…
It was so interesting for me!..so many people like Pythagoras,also was follower of this way…and through him it reached to others somehow and later to Christianity….
it is so interesting …coz then i thought in all history looks like it became like a fight between 2 theory, 1:religious view ( thinking 2 sides or 2 poles always,good and bad and so on,looking for God in heaven or sky!..)…and 2: spritual view( think all as ONE,and God here between us in our heart,inside&ourself!)
I guess in old time people were aware of it very well!!..they knew the “secret”!!then after philosophy and religions we forget about all,:(…something very easy …i think all children felt it anyhow, when we was ONE with ourself….so all sptitual teachers try just to make us to go back these long way!…to just became child again…to make us aware of the duality we r living in,in unreal world of mind we r living in….
So that is the key they have gave us,forget about all theoris! about all good and bad..all names….become empty….then what they have talked about love and oneness and secret maybe will come to us by itslef…will reflect in our heart…
God!! i just forget the time!!sorry i have talked alot….i don’t now if i am right or wrong about my undrestanding…
thank you Ivan….

]]> http://www.poetry-chaikhana.com/blog/2010/02/02/the-celestial-drink-4-fermentation/#comment-9856 artemis Wed, 03 Feb 2010 00:08:51 +0000 http://www.poetry-chaikhana.com/blog/2010/02/02/the-celestial-drink-4-fermentation/#comment-9856 I never though of sacrmental wine in this context..fermentation. Thanks for your research... I never though of sacrmental wine in this context..fermentation. Thanks for your research…

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