Comments on: Dante Alighieri – The love of God, unutterable and perfect http://www.poetry-chaikhana.com/blog/2010/05/05/dante-alighieri-the-love-of-god-unutterable-and-perfect/ Sacred Poetry from Around the World Sat, 18 May 2013 21:50:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: sergey http://www.poetry-chaikhana.com/blog/2010/05/05/dante-alighieri-the-love-of-god-unutterable-and-perfect/#comment-13257 sergey Sun, 30 May 2010 07:53:07 +0000 http://www.poetry-chaikhana.com/blog/2010/05/05/dante-alighieri-the-love-of-god-unutterable-and-perfect/#comment-13257 Ivan, I can't find any words of gratitude for dicovering Dante's verses for my perception of life. Kind regards, Sergei Ivan,
I can’t find any words of gratitude for dicovering Dante’s verses for my perception of life.
Kind regards,
Sergei

]]> By: sergey http://www.poetry-chaikhana.com/blog/2010/05/05/dante-alighieri-the-love-of-god-unutterable-and-perfect/#comment-12905 sergey Sun, 16 May 2010 07:06:24 +0000 http://www.poetry-chaikhana.com/blog/2010/05/05/dante-alighieri-the-love-of-god-unutterable-and-perfect/#comment-12905 Ivan, please, go on... . Kind regards, Sergei. Ivan,
please, go on… .
Kind regards,
Sergei.

]]> By: Miana http://www.poetry-chaikhana.com/blog/2010/05/05/dante-alighieri-the-love-of-god-unutterable-and-perfect/#comment-12660 Miana Fri, 07 May 2010 15:54:47 +0000 http://www.poetry-chaikhana.com/blog/2010/05/05/dante-alighieri-the-love-of-god-unutterable-and-perfect/#comment-12660 I am in a place of abundant gratitude for receiving this poem as well as every other poem that randomly arrives in my email account. Thank you Ivan for creating this connection to universal like minded appreciation. This poem strikes a deep cord for me, it is rests in that place of vastness, reminding me of open sky. It celebrates in the deepest way possible with words the preciousness of being alive. The portal between the words offer a place that asks me to "re-member." But mostly, this poem celebrates what can not be really expressed in words...but the fact that words do express this, well it challenges my understanding of words. I have reread this poem at least 10 times. Somehow I go back to that first line and then end up rereading the poem again. I realize when I read the poem over and over, it makes a full circle in itself.. reflecting it's own words as well as his experience with god light love. The poem feeds on itself. To try to write about it makes me want to go back to it and reread it again to remember the beginning and the end. I then silently repeat to myself over and over and over.... Yes, Yes and Yes. I am in a place of abundant gratitude for receiving this poem as well as every other poem that randomly arrives in my email account. Thank you Ivan for creating this connection to universal like minded appreciation.

This poem strikes a deep cord for me, it is rests in that place of vastness, reminding me of open sky. It celebrates in the deepest way possible with words the preciousness of being alive. The portal between the words offer a place that asks me to “re-member.” But mostly, this poem celebrates what can not be really expressed in words…but the fact that words do express this, well it challenges my understanding of words. I have reread this poem at least 10 times. Somehow I go back to that first line and then end up rereading the poem again. I realize when I read the poem over and over, it makes a full circle in itself.. reflecting it’s own words as well as his experience with god light love. The poem feeds on itself. To try to write about it makes me want to go back to it and reread it again to remember the beginning and the end. I then silently repeat to myself over and over and over….
Yes, Yes and Yes.

]]> By: Nisa http://www.poetry-chaikhana.com/blog/2010/05/05/dante-alighieri-the-love-of-god-unutterable-and-perfect/#comment-12614 Nisa Thu, 06 May 2010 17:49:15 +0000 http://www.poetry-chaikhana.com/blog/2010/05/05/dante-alighieri-the-love-of-god-unutterable-and-perfect/#comment-12614 My thoughts on your thoughts.... They are so beautiful, and bring dimensions to the poet's word, that I only wish I could be enlightened enough to see. I am quite new to this world of poetry, and I find it divine, especially as seen through your interpretations. Thank you and bless you. My thoughts on your thoughts….
They are so beautiful, and bring dimensions to the poet’s word, that I only wish I could be enlightened enough to see. I am quite new to this world of poetry, and I find it divine, especially as seen through your interpretations. Thank you and bless you.

]]> By: Suzanne Sturn http://www.poetry-chaikhana.com/blog/2010/05/05/dante-alighieri-the-love-of-god-unutterable-and-perfect/#comment-12604 Suzanne Sturn Thu, 06 May 2010 13:13:39 +0000 http://www.poetry-chaikhana.com/blog/2010/05/05/dante-alighieri-the-love-of-god-unutterable-and-perfect/#comment-12604 Dear Ivan, Thank you so much for these beautiful offerings.... I'm reminded of Dogen's verse: Midnight. No wind, no waves. The empty boat is flooded with moonlight. And also words from an old Zen teacher of mine: "Empty, empty, empty...happy, happy, happy." love, Suzanne Dear Ivan,

Thank you so much for these beautiful offerings….

I’m reminded of Dogen’s verse:

Midnight. No wind, no waves.
The empty boat
is flooded with moonlight.

And also words from an old Zen teacher of mine: “Empty, empty, empty…happy, happy, happy.”

love,
Suzanne

]]> By: Yewtree http://www.poetry-chaikhana.com/blog/2010/05/05/dante-alighieri-the-love-of-god-unutterable-and-perfect/#comment-12598 Yewtree Thu, 06 May 2010 10:58:53 +0000 http://www.poetry-chaikhana.com/blog/2010/05/05/dante-alighieri-the-love-of-god-unutterable-and-perfect/#comment-12598 I am currently reading <em>Into the silent land</em> by Martin Laird, which deals with the encounter with the inner presence and silence - the colourlessness to which you and Dante are referring. It's a very helpful book, as it outlines the difficulties with contemplative practice in a very clear and kind way, and explains how to get through them. I am currently reading Into the silent land by Martin Laird, which deals with the encounter with the inner presence and silence – the colourlessness to which you and Dante are referring. It’s a very helpful book, as it outlines the difficulties with contemplative practice in a very clear and kind way, and explains how to get through them.

]]> By: aparna http://www.poetry-chaikhana.com/blog/2010/05/05/dante-alighieri-the-love-of-god-unutterable-and-perfect/#comment-12585 aparna Thu, 06 May 2010 04:54:49 +0000 http://www.poetry-chaikhana.com/blog/2010/05/05/dante-alighieri-the-love-of-god-unutterable-and-perfect/#comment-12585 Take away all the blotches on my soul, And make me colorless as Thee!!! Take away all the blotches on my soul,
And make me colorless as Thee!!!

]]> By: Cecilia http://www.poetry-chaikhana.com/blog/2010/05/05/dante-alighieri-the-love-of-god-unutterable-and-perfect/#comment-12582 Cecilia Thu, 06 May 2010 03:51:22 +0000 http://www.poetry-chaikhana.com/blog/2010/05/05/dante-alighieri-the-love-of-god-unutterable-and-perfect/#comment-12582 Thank you Ivan for sharing this divine poetry and frame it so well where I am in life personally. Cecilia - Berkeley Thank you Ivan for sharing this divine poetry and frame it so well where I am in life personally.

Cecilia – Berkeley

]]> By: Catherine http://www.poetry-chaikhana.com/blog/2010/05/05/dante-alighieri-the-love-of-god-unutterable-and-perfect/#comment-12566 Catherine Wed, 05 May 2010 18:26:06 +0000 http://www.poetry-chaikhana.com/blog/2010/05/05/dante-alighieri-the-love-of-god-unutterable-and-perfect/#comment-12566 Dante's use of the imagery around transparency is related to a subject that he held very dear: the quality of the human intellect (or "soul", "anima") and it's relationship with the divine intellect (which is sometimes seen in the plural to relate to the angels). With the subject of the diaphanous, we are in an Aristolelian context, and "dantisti" debate to what degree Dante leaned within the Aristotelian criticism (more towards Aquinas or Avveroes). I believe in this subject he was more like Avveroes... and Avvicena, two great Commentators on Aristotle's De Anima who were accomplished Muslim philosophers (Avveroes being also a judge). The transparency or diaphanous quality of the potential intellect, as the human intellect was called by Aristotle, had within its potential the capacity to hold and make known all knowables. The true agent or knower in this equation is of course Supreme Consciousness. All things could be known therefor. There was even the promise of ascending to a sublime "wiseman" status, of one who is so "clear" that the light passes through, he can know basically whatever is set before him... We'd call this a gnani in some circles. Anyway, the diaphanous is never bland, but a capacity for light. Thank you for posting the sublime poet! Much Love, Catherine Dante’s use of the imagery around transparency is related to a subject that he held very dear: the quality of the human intellect (or “soul”, “anima”) and it’s relationship with the divine intellect (which is sometimes seen in the plural to relate to the angels). With the subject of the diaphanous, we are in an Aristolelian context, and “dantisti” debate to what degree Dante leaned within the Aristotelian criticism (more towards Aquinas or Avveroes). I believe in this subject he was more like Avveroes… and Avvicena, two great Commentators on Aristotle’s De Anima who were accomplished Muslim philosophers (Avveroes being also a judge).

The transparency or diaphanous quality of the potential intellect, as the human intellect was called by Aristotle, had within its potential the capacity to hold and make known all knowables. The true agent or knower in this equation is of course Supreme Consciousness. All things could be known therefor. There was even the promise of ascending to a sublime “wiseman” status, of one who is so “clear” that the light passes through, he can know basically whatever is set before him…
We’d call this a gnani in some circles.

Anyway, the diaphanous is never bland, but a capacity for light.

Thank you for posting the sublime poet!

Much Love,
Catherine

]]> By: jerome bechtle http://www.poetry-chaikhana.com/blog/2010/05/05/dante-alighieri-the-love-of-god-unutterable-and-perfect/#comment-12565 jerome bechtle Wed, 05 May 2010 18:03:09 +0000 http://www.poetry-chaikhana.com/blog/2010/05/05/dante-alighieri-the-love-of-god-unutterable-and-perfect/#comment-12565 Ivan... I am ever thankful for your words... Jerry from Montana Ivan… I am ever thankful for your words…

Jerry from Montana

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