Comments on: Nagarjuna – Change http://www.poetry-chaikhana.com/blog/2012/12/14/nagarjuna-change-2/ Sacred Poetry from Around the World Sat, 25 May 2013 13:44:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: Djani http://www.poetry-chaikhana.com/blog/2012/12/14/nagarjuna-change-2/#comment-86449 Djani Sun, 16 Dec 2012 21:04:00 +0000 http://www.poetry-chaikhana.com/blog/?p=2363#comment-86449 Thank you Ivan,as usely you went right in point here,and as usely you made me smile with delight. Thank you Ivan,as usely you went right in point here,and as usely you made me smile with delight.

]]> By: Peg http://www.poetry-chaikhana.com/blog/2012/12/14/nagarjuna-change-2/#comment-86261 Peg Sat, 15 Dec 2012 14:14:49 +0000 http://www.poetry-chaikhana.com/blog/?p=2363#comment-86261 As the Sophia of wisdom is finally here, let us know wisdom. Wisdom is knowledge through direct experience. The "linear" pattern is belief, then knowing, then wisdom. Wisdom is the greatest level of spiritual attainment. Thank you Jack. I enjoy both spaces, matter and the void. Though, I have to admit, I like the void better. As the Sophia of wisdom is finally here, let us know wisdom. Wisdom is knowledge through direct experience. The “linear” pattern is belief, then knowing, then wisdom. Wisdom is the greatest level of spiritual attainment.

Thank you Jack. I enjoy both spaces, matter and the void. Though, I have to admit, I like the void better.

]]> By: bharati http://www.poetry-chaikhana.com/blog/2012/12/14/nagarjuna-change-2/#comment-86224 bharati Sat, 15 Dec 2012 07:56:48 +0000 http://www.poetry-chaikhana.com/blog/?p=2363#comment-86224 As usual your explanation is wonderful. However I read the last verse differently: true believers in emptiness can never again be swayed by opinions, labels, false identifications... As usual your explanation is wonderful.
However I read the last verse differently:
true believers in emptiness can never again be swayed by opinions, labels, false identifications…

]]> By: Jack Gilles http://www.poetry-chaikhana.com/blog/2012/12/14/nagarjuna-change-2/#comment-86146 Jack Gilles Fri, 14 Dec 2012 18:51:48 +0000 http://www.poetry-chaikhana.com/blog/?p=2363#comment-86146 Ivan, great poem! I want to share another dimension of this. This is based on the work of my friend Bob Campbell and his work can be found on his web site . It is a very complex and comprehensive discovery of his about how all things happen, but in regards to this part about emptiness let me say a little. All things are in both a 'form' and 'emptiness' reality, going back and forth. Therefore everything is in both, but when in emptiness it is dialogue with the universal form of that reality. Thus all our actions commit to the Void the results and add to the universal dimension which then becomes available to all. A little bit like Sheldrake's (sp?) and Bohm's morphogenetic field work. Let me illustrate from my own history in Chemistry. Years ago when a new chemical was created they found that it was easier to get crystals anywhere else in the world. The only explanation they had was that micro-crystals must have gotten into the beards of the chemists and therefore made new attempts having access to seed crystals. Now it can be understood as access to the Void which transcends space and time. Anyway, I just want you to know how creative and powerful your sharing these mystic poems are. Thank you! Jack Ivan, great poem! I want to share another dimension of this. This is based on the work of my friend Bob Campbell and his work can be found on his web site . It is a very complex and comprehensive discovery of his about how all things happen, but in regards to this part about emptiness let me say a little.

All things are in both a ‘form’ and ‘emptiness’ reality, going back and forth. Therefore everything is in both, but when in emptiness it is dialogue with the universal form of that reality. Thus all our actions commit to the Void the results and add to the universal dimension which then becomes available to all. A little bit like Sheldrake’s (sp?) and Bohm’s morphogenetic field work.

Let me illustrate from my own history in Chemistry. Years ago when a new chemical was created they found that it was easier to get crystals anywhere else in the world. The only explanation they had was that micro-crystals must have gotten into the beards of the chemists and therefore made new attempts having access to seed crystals. Now it can be understood as access to the Void which transcends space and time.

Anyway, I just want you to know how creative and powerful your sharing these mystic poems are. Thank you!

Jack

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